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Please don't call psychics anymore!
Zee:
--- Quote ---Is it possible that the difference in the two situations is how we react while awaiting the final outcome? In career-related situations, do we not still go to work, appreciate that we have a job, evenif it is not the best. Or if we are unemployed, do we not still go out and continue to look while something we have already applied for is fermenting?
Could the success rate be related to the fact that when we don't dwell, and when the decision is left entirely up to another person, over whom we have little impact, and we are given only one option and that is to accept what is and leave the final outcome up to the Universe, then things tend to work out?
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If we are unemployed, and are told we are going to get such and such job that we applied for, No we don't always continue to go out and look for a job. Interviewing is a big hassle, not as big as moving, but a pain nonetheless. So if we think it's in the bag, we stop looking (at least I've done this before). Or we get numerous readings, which confirms, I will get that position. I did not get one position I called readers about. Not one. I even had readers bring up another position which went to someone else and continue to tell me the company will call me back. I had this come up in at least two maybe three readings and it never happened. NEVER.
Because I had so many interviews, the position I have now, I just figured I wasn't going to get it. So, during the interview, although professional, I acted like I wasn't going to get it. It was through yet another placement service, so when they called me (as so many do), I was like yeah okay, I'll go interview. They asked if I had questions and I told him no because I thought, why would I question something I believe I'm not going to get. They even told me I was one of the most laid back person that has ever come through their doors. Not only did I get the position, the manager told me before I left the interview.
The complete and definitive problem is getting readings in the first place.
I've come to believe everything has free will (EVERYTHING), which includes employment and as much as we'd like to think a position will be filled by the best fit candidate, this is hardly ever the case. Emotions are involved a good percentage of the time, whether we see them or not and as humans it's completely unavoidable. We all know someone who got a position because they knew someone, or because the person was attractive, or a person has been at the job so long, the company has to promote them (and none of these people really were the best fit candidate). This doesn't always happen, but there are many cases were it has.
I believe our success rate is not only related to letting the outcome go [once it has been told to us or it's something we severely desire], but just letting it go in general (even before we consider getting a reading). We are suppose to ask for what we want, then let it go. I've heard this since the beginning of time and letting go just means to let things take their own course without manipulation from the participants.
If for example I don't get a reading, I still dwell on the outcome, just because it's important to me. The {issue} is almost the only thing we can think about. It's the focused energy that can pull, as well as push something away that we may want. The affect readings have is that they verbalize things into becoming another form of focus.
When we call to get readings, we're already focused on it (hence, why it's easy for a seasoned reader to pick up on it), so in essence we really can't blame readers right/or wrong for something we already are focused on. Isn't that the reason we call? We are basically just adding fuel to the fire, by becoming more focused on it.
I may continue readings especially for the pep they give me when I'm down (this is the only thing I feel it's good for). It's just another unbiased opinion/someone on my side, but I won't live my life through the information that was given to me, nor change the path I'm on because of it.
Zee:
--- Quote ---If you are convinced that the client is responsible for impacting a prediction based on their own reaction to it, then why get readings at all? Wouldn't it make sense to encourage people to live their lives without the influence of these predictions?
Also, I think you mean well and you want everyone to get their happy ending, but when someone posts that things didn't happen and they didn't reunite with their past love, I think it's dangerous to encourage them to keep holding on. I see why you like to provide alternate possibilities, but it's best for people to move on and live their lives without clinging to hope for YEARS and spending money on these calls in the process. It's almost a form of abuse or torture.
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Such a good description, I laughed when I read this Synergy, because abuse and torture is what it feels like when you're strung out on what a reader tells you and not knowing which direction to turn in. I know, I've been there, but when you come out on the other side, we'll all understand (at some point) that we let the reading influence our decisions without doing what we would have done, before the reading instigated our thoughts.
It's so, so true.
Bark angel:
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM ---
If you are convinced that the client is responsible for impacting a prediction based on their own reaction to it, then why get readings at all? Wouldn't it make sense to encourage people to live their lives without the influence of these predictions?
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I said a client might be responsible for impacting a reading. Not that all clients are. And I am not advocating getting a reading. Some people do live their lives without the influence of predictions. It's their choice and yours.
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM ---Also, I think you mean well and you want everyone to get their happy ending, but when someone posts that things didn't happen and they didn't reunite with their past love, I think it's dangerous to encourage them to keep holding on. I see why you like to provide alternate possibilities, but it's best for people to move on and live their lives without clinging to hope for YEARS and spending money on these calls in the process. It's almost a form of abuse or torture.
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Syn, I am not encouraging anyone to do anything. In fact, the essence of what I am asking is - "perhaps clients should put aside the information received during a reading, as if they never had one". So, in fact the result is that whatever is to happen happens - reading or otherwise.
Syn, you are fully entitled to think whatever you wish about my well-meaning hopes and aspirations, but the truth is I have my own opinion, and I am entitled to it. I, personally, feel you are not accepting even though you claim you have, when it comes to the potential of a relationship with this guy. Perhaps surrendering might be wise.
Synergy:
--- Quote from: Bark angel on January 09, 2014, 06:49:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM ---
If you are convinced that the client is responsible for impacting a prediction based on their own reaction to it, then why get readings at all? Wouldn't it make sense to encourage people to live their lives without the influence of these predictions?
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I said a client might be responsible for impacting a reading. Not that all clients are. And I am not advocating getting a reading. Some people do live their lives without the influence of predictions. It's their choice and yours.
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM ---Also, I think you mean well and you want everyone to get their happy ending, but when someone posts that things didn't happen and they didn't reunite with their past love, I think it's dangerous to encourage them to keep holding on. I see why you like to provide alternate possibilities, but it's best for people to move on and live their lives without clinging to hope for YEARS and spending money on these calls in the process. It's almost a form of abuse or torture.
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Syn, I am not encouraging anyone to do anything. In fact, the essence of what I am asking is - "perhaps clients should put aside the information received during a reading, as if they never had one". So, in fact the result is that whatever is to happen happens - reading or otherwise.
Syn, you are fully entitled to think whatever you wish about my well-meaning hopes and aspirations, but the truth is I have my own opinion, and I am entitled to it. I, personally, feel you are not accepting even though you claim you have, when it comes to the potential of a relationship with this guy. Perhaps surrendering might be wise.
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I am not accepting what? I am accepting reality and moving on with my life from there. That doesn't mean my feelings for him will shut off. It means I accept the friendship and also accept that he does not envision himself with me because he does not want to deal with children and simply sees himself being alone or with someone else who doesn't come with the "baggage" I come with. Straight from the horse's mouth. That's what I accept.
Bark angel:
Well, that's good then. My mistake. I thought I read somewhere in your earlier post that you were being given predictions that he would come back around and reconsider AFTER he had already said this to you. That's why I suggested you might not be accepting reality.
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 06:59:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bark angel on January 09, 2014, 06:49:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM ---
If you are convinced that the client is responsible for impacting a prediction based on their own reaction to it, then why get readings at all? Wouldn't it make sense to encourage people to live their lives without the influence of these predictions?
--- End quote ---
I said a client might be responsible for impacting a reading. Not that all clients are. And I am not advocating getting a reading. Some people do live their lives without the influence of predictions. It's their choice and yours.
--- Quote from: Synergy on January 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM ---Also, I think you mean well and you want everyone to get their happy ending, but when someone posts that things didn't happen and they didn't reunite with their past love, I think it's dangerous to encourage them to keep holding on. I see why you like to provide alternate possibilities, but it's best for people to move on and live their lives without clinging to hope for YEARS and spending money on these calls in the process. It's almost a form of abuse or torture.
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Syn, I am not encouraging anyone to do anything. In fact, the essence of what I am asking is - "perhaps clients should put aside the information received during a reading, as if they never had one". So, in fact the result is that whatever is to happen happens - reading or otherwise.
Syn, you are fully entitled to think whatever you wish about my well-meaning hopes and aspirations, but the truth is I have my own opinion, and I am entitled to it. I, personally, feel you are not accepting even though you claim you have, when it comes to the potential of a relationship with this guy. Perhaps surrendering might be wise.
--- End quote ---
I am not accepting what? I am accepting reality and moving on with my life from there. That doesn't mean my feelings for him will shut off. It means I accept the friendship and also accept that he does not envision himself with me because he does not want to deal with children and simply sees himself being alone or with someone else who doesn't come with the "baggage" I come with. Straight from the horse's mouth. That's what I accept.
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