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Please don't call psychics anymore!
Bark angel:
I believe this is a perfect example of how "we" impact our reading success. Can we not agree that on this forum there are reports of small insignificant events that happen as predicted, yet larger more significant events or outcomes seem to be just outside our grasp? Is it not highly possible, therefore, that we tend not to dwell on the smaller events as we focus our attention on the larger outcomes? The smaller less significant events roll out much to our surprise while the "mother load" predictions don't pan out! Could it be we are the difference between a successful prediction and one that it not?
Just asking....
melancholia:
--- Quote from: Bark angel on January 09, 2014, 02:06:28 PM ---By the way, how do career-related predictions turn out more often than not? Do they not involve free will? There is a person that is involved in making a decision.... just as in a relationship. The difference, in my opinion, is because there are less forces that intercept that decision.
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I think we're agreeing with one another on this. But yes, there are less forces affecting a career prediction, because most hiring managers are (or at least should be) removing their emotions from the equation when making a decision between candidates - the "best fit" usually matches a certain profile they were already looking for. Some feelings might come into play, but they're mostly emotionally detached from the candidates because they don't really know them and they aren't invested in them personally. With relationships, everything is emotion, which is why it's so unpredictable. If they're reading based off of your current feelings and your partner's current feelings, but something triggers a new emotion - something as simple as, say, a song coming on the radio - that decides to linger, that can drastically change the outcome. It's why I've kind of thrown up my hands in frustration when it comes to love predictions - there are a million billion little variables that are constantly changing because emotions are fluid, especially when those emotions are in regards to an intimate relationship.
Edit: all that being said, I'm not saying it's impossible to nail a long term big picture relationship prediction. I'm just saying that, compared to finance or job security readings, the chances are much higher that things are going to change long before the prediction pans out.
Bark angel:
Right. So the emotions and feelings and thoughts at the time of the reading are what the reader tunes into in order to make a prediction. So, as time goes on those thoughts feelings and emotions could dwindle and what appeared to be a sure "thing" at one time might then take on less of a certainty at some point in time. However, if when tuning in over time a reader still gets the same sense of feeling/emotion then we should learn to "let go" and let time take its course. Easier said than done, I know.
Bark angel:
For a career-related prediction, I would tend to agree with the below as it pertains to the hiring manager alone! The client probably has quite a lot of vested interest and emotion in the outcome, however, and especially when it is a much-needed job.
I think it might be wise for us to look a the percentage of success in career-related predictions a little closer to examine the dynamic, though, before throwing all psychics out with the bathwater.
Permit me to suggest this.... take a career-related prediction and let's suppose the following:
1. Hiring manager is making a decision without a lot of vested emotion...its a decision based upon an intellectual process rather than a heart-felt emotion.
2. Client seeking the career could be similarly detached to the outcome, but there is a good chance that the client might have a lot of emotion attached to the outcome, since it would impact his or her life if it materializes.
Now, compare this with a relationship-related prediction. What is similar? What is different? In a relationship matter the client has the same vested interest in the query, and the outcome. The subject of the query (the SO, or SM, or love interest, or ex) is akin to the hiring manager - detached, not invested, not emotional...possibly approaching the situation with intellectual process rather than heart-felt emotion.
Is it possible that the difference in the two situations is how we react while awaiting the final outcome? In career-related situations, do we not still go to work, appreciate that we have a job, evenif it is not the best. Or if we are unemployed, do we not still go out and continue to look while something we have already applied for is fermenting?
Could the success rate be related to the fact that when we don't dwell, and when the decision is left entirely up to another person, over whom we have little impact, and we are given only one option and that is to accept what is and leave the final outcome up to the Universe, then things tend to work out?
--- Quote from: Somnus on January 09, 2014, 03:47:04 PM ---
.... there are less forces affecting a career prediction, because most hiring managers are (or at least should be) removing their emotions from the equation when making a decision between candidates - the "best fit" usually matches a certain profile they were already looking for. Some feelings might come into play, but they're mostly emotionally detached from the candidates because they don't really know them and they aren't invested in them personally.
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Synergy:
I don't necessarily want to share all the details of my relationship with this person or with regards to the specifics of my various readings, but, yes, my favorite readers do know what he told me. Regardless, they say he'll still come back around romantically. I have no reason to believe this is true as he told me exactly how he feels... not just about me, but about his life and also how he feels about the fact I have children (a dealbreaker). I don't need a reader to blow smoke up my ass and tell me this man will wake up one day and suddenly reconsider. Give me a break. Reality has proven (for the past 2 and a half years, mind you) that this man does not want a relationship beyond friendship with me. I love him, I want to be with him, I'd love to build my life with him, but he told me that's not going to happen. Why would I believe someone other than the source?
By the way, this isn't about things happening in my time. I don't cling to timeframes. I don't even ask for them. This is about reality versus something a reader on the other line of a phone is telling me. Let's be honest. Reality should win every time.
If you are convinced that the client is responsible for impacting a prediction based on their own reaction to it, then why get readings at all? Wouldn't it make sense to encourage people to live their lives without the influence of these predictions?
Also, I think you mean well and you want everyone to get their happy ending, but when someone posts that things didn't happen and they didn't reunite with their past love, I think it's dangerous to encourage them to keep holding on. I see why you like to provide alternate possibilities, but it's best for people to move on and live their lives without clinging to hope for YEARS and spending money on these calls in the process. It's almost a form of abuse or torture.
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