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Luckystar:
--- Quote --- I'm not buying that "nothing is set in stone" hoopla that psychics like spouting when they are wrong. Things can change course...but usually there is a course that is unmoved and a good psychic should be able to see with certainty where things are going.
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I agree with this. Of course the things that are not destined to happen in our lives are prone to changing, but some things i do believe are mapped out for us before we are even born. We choose a certain path before we step into life as human beings in order to maximize our spirtual growth. We might be able to use our free will in our daily decisions, but ultimately we still end up in the same place we were meant to be.
1sweetday:
Consider for one moment that everything in this realm is constantly changing physically... every step you, as an individual, takes leaves an irreversible mark on this earth. The definition of fluidity as an adjective is 'readily reshaped; pliable,' even the most solid thing we can conceive of, the very ground we tread every day, is fluid in physical nature. What I am suggesting is that they can't see the entire, permanent picture. If you believe in destiny and that you have a predetermined destination, that's fine.... the journey to that destination is what you and others can influence, for example; you want that job.... you may not get it right at that moment- maybe you didn't meet the qualifications, maybe the hr director's niece was also interviewing, maybe there was a hiring freeze from corporate and the position was terminated before the first round of applicants was interviewed, for whatever reason you didn't get it... that in no way means you won't eventually, if it was meant to be it will happened sooner than later. But all of those little things can can alter the path to that job, and most of them have nothing to do with you or anything you've done. What you are asking from these readers is to not just to tell you the destination and the general lay of the land, you are demanding to know every little in road and the location of every pebble that lay in the thoroughfare.
As to the inane questions, here is my smart ass answer: The best way to protect yourself is to not call psychics at all. A less jack-assish answer is this: If you trust in your own instincts and not become slave to predictions and and time frames you will find that your personal journey is a little less painful. As I have stated before; I've been visiting this forum for years. These threads are littered with tales of time frames that came and went and readings that never came to pass. It is very tempting to call everyday, but what good does that do you? I too have had predictions given to me that were such blatant fairy tales, that looking back I feel like such a fool. I have found readers that have been able to give me predictions that come to pass, within stated time frames even(!), but that doesn't mean that I put too much stock in the details or times they give me because I do not think that there is any one human being who can map out the future in its entirety in precise detail for even one person let alone several dozens. I think expecting to find one is like expecting to find a unicorn who speaks fluent English and is carrying a basket of leprechauns. The best you can do is find one or two who can give you the big picture and where you stand in it now so that you can make your way to that eventual outcome without to much harm to yourself or those around you. At some point, you do have to take the reigns and walk the path yourself.
1sweetday:
One more point before I fade back into obscurity.... There are a lot of frauds out there, for every one truly gifted reader there about a thousand fakers. Do I believe that there are people out there with the ability to see the future?... yes or I wouldn't be here. But I do think most of the purported "psychics" on the big websites are either out-right liars or people who are well-meaning and greatly over-estimating their own abilities (more of the former than the latter). Because there are very few conclusive methods for scientifically verifying psychic or legally regulating these types of services, those of us looking for answers are more susceptible to being taken advantage of by a larger number of individuals and organizations. I have come to be extremely wary of anyone who gives me a detailed story with a guarantee that I will be with my soul mate in only 3 months time... my personal philosophy is to never trust someone who flat out tells me something with such certainty that they believe they should never be questioned. I have found that people who do have a gift will be up front about its nature and how it works for them, and tell you that nothing is ever truly certain until it happens. I only have one trusted reader who I only talk to occasionally, and she works for me. I found out about her here on this forum, and at the risk of going off topic and being shouted down I'll refrain from naming her here. I would say that for me, she has been about 90% and has given me details about me and my situation down to private, personally used phrases and terminology that she could not have guessed or researched because I don't discuss them publicly and her predictions are specific and again come to pass in a timely manner . In short she is works for as good for me as I could ever hope to expect of any reader. But she is completely up front about not liking to give predictions because they can change.
jen80:
Lol
Ok. I think the problem is using the physical to explain the spiritual.
Psychic readings are using the spiritual realm.
Scientist/physcists don't usually believe in the spiritual that's why most of them are atheists. They believe in matter,atom,neutrons etc and what they can explain away.
You cannot mix the two. It will bring confusion and doubt.
I remember years back when man started going to outer space someone said that heaven didn't exists because they went out of the earth and did not see it.
Well to those that believe in heaven it exists but on a spiritual realm. You have to die first.
If you watch the show 'I died and back (I don't remember the name but you can go to youtube or animal planet or discovery planet and watch it. Things happen in the spiritual plane.
Even those that don't believe in the biblical heaven but the universe are tapping into a spiritual thing. E.g when you ask for a bird as a sign and it manifests what physcist can explain that. Its spiritual.
When people see 'guides' what are these beings?.
Spiritual matters have no explanations so you cannot affix the terms 'fluidity to them because physical cannot control spiritual. You will ultimately arrive at that outcome no matter the path you choose unless for christians who believe that with prayer and fasting that God may change it which you will also be made aware.
But to say that it changes daily, every second and minute does not sound spiritually right.
Out of personal experience I do believe in psychics and read with them but am not too used to massive failures and I don't do good with having excuses for failures, having everlasting patience years after a prediction has come and gone.not used to readers wowing people with general readings that can pertain to everyone's situation and they are praised, not used to knowing past and present, where I live, color of my car but future predictions are a no go.
The way I will protect myself is not to swallow will power bs, not to give a reader's prediction too much extra time, not to get wowed by anything I have said anywhere including to other readers because they may be sharing notes. I want and pay for FUTURE predictions and if a reader cannot deliver at the correct time I move on.
1sweetday:
I don't understand why the physically and the spiritual have to be separate. Or why it is imperative to do so. Most scientists I've met are agnostic, meaning they are not comfortable making a definite judgement because they don't have all of the answers. But they will tell you that we do exist along side other planes of existence, I do not think that science and spirituality are mutually exclusive.
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